<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Rational Recovery is Pure Partisanship</title>
	<atom:link href="http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship</link>
	<description>The Discovering Alcoholic is a top rated recovery blog covering alcoholism, substance abuse, treatment and recovery issues.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 23:01:15 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: E.M.</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-68606</link>
		<dc:creator>E.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 07:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-68606</guid>
		<description>I got clean with AA for 2 years. I then found Rational Recovery online and thought &#039;wow this seems obvious and easy and I wont need any more meetings or steps!&#039; I tried it for about 7 months and kept slipping and slipping. It was a nightmare. I gave it a good try but looking back it was a very foolish and dangerous thing to do. The way this guy promotes his program is truly dangerous to peoples lives. 
I would say that any program that is asking for money and has so much AA bashing should be treated with skepticism (I think his Rehab Center costs thousands). By all means explore other tools but caution is needed. 
I went back to AA and am back to sober life, I am lucky to be alive. I remember when I went back,  every meeting I would say  50% of the people had long sober time - 5 years, 10 years, 18 years, 3 years, 30 years - it gave me hope, after reading in his book that the recovery rate of AA is less that 0%. There is no basis for this estimate, it is purely made up to attack AA more.
I just thought I would write about my experience because there isn&#039;t much information about this online. Maybe it will help someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got clean with AA for 2 years. I then found Rational Recovery online and thought &#8216;wow this seems obvious and easy and I wont need any more meetings or steps!&#8217; I tried it for about 7 months and kept slipping and slipping. It was a nightmare. I gave it a good try but looking back it was a very foolish and dangerous thing to do. The way this guy promotes his program is truly dangerous to peoples lives.<br />
I would say that any program that is asking for money and has so much AA bashing should be treated with skepticism (I think his Rehab Center costs thousands). By all means explore other tools but caution is needed.<br />
I went back to AA and am back to sober life, I am lucky to be alive. I remember when I went back,  every meeting I would say  50% of the people had long sober time &#8211; 5 years, 10 years, 18 years, 3 years, 30 years &#8211; it gave me hope, after reading in his book that the recovery rate of AA is less that 0%. There is no basis for this estimate, it is purely made up to attack AA more.<br />
I just thought I would write about my experience because there isn&#8217;t much information about this online. Maybe it will help someone.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Discovering Alcoholic</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-40206</link>
		<dc:creator>The Discovering Alcoholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-40206</guid>
		<description>They&#039;re back up now- I guess it was just a momentary lapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re back up now- I guess it was just a momentary lapse.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: O. J.</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-40050</link>
		<dc:creator>O. J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-40050</guid>
		<description>Just googled Rational Recovery.  At the top of the Google list is Rational Recovery.  I clicked it.  &quot;Account has been suspended.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just googled Rational Recovery.  At the top of the Google list is Rational Recovery.  I clicked it.  &#8220;Account has been suspended.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Screedler</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-39340</link>
		<dc:creator>Screedler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-39340</guid>
		<description>BTW - HB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; HB</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-39213</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 03:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-39213</guid>
		<description>I was interested in Rational Recovery a few years back - at the time I would have considered almost anything. I was very put off by the obsession with AA bashing - I did not find that helpful at all. A lot of the material seemed to be more about what was wrong with AA rather than what is right about Rational Recovery. I am not an AA member but can see that it works for a lot of people. 

It is good that there are alternatives to the 12 steps, but RR really needs to focus on what it is good at rather than judging other methods. I also feel that Trimpey has inserted too much of his own personality into this approach.  Many of the RR techniques have been around long before this group, but Trimpey either doesn’t seem to be aware of this or he hides the fact. If something works for people I am all for it, but the sniping at other approaches is not the most attractive of human traits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested in Rational Recovery a few years back &#8211; at the time I would have considered almost anything. I was very put off by the obsession with AA bashing &#8211; I did not find that helpful at all. A lot of the material seemed to be more about what was wrong with AA rather than what is right about Rational Recovery. I am not an AA member but can see that it works for a lot of people. </p>
<p>It is good that there are alternatives to the 12 steps, but RR really needs to focus on what it is good at rather than judging other methods. I also feel that Trimpey has inserted too much of his own personality into this approach.  Many of the RR techniques have been around long before this group, but Trimpey either doesn’t seem to be aware of this or he hides the fact. If something works for people I am all for it, but the sniping at other approaches is not the most attractive of human traits.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: From the Mailbag III</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-28362</link>
		<dc:creator>From the Mailbag III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-28362</guid>
		<description>[...] the semantics concerning a fellowship of alcoholics. This debate is always guaranteed to attract a rational recovery adherent and their canned “I hate AA” speech, this one is no different so look about midway [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the semantics concerning a fellowship of alcoholics. This debate is always guaranteed to attract a rational recovery adherent and their canned “I hate AA” speech, this one is no different so look about midway [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dr. P.</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-678</guid>
		<description>Check out one of Trimpeys disciples at ARID - http://thearidsite.tripod.com/12THFILE.HTM.   Here you can see them tie Alcoholics Anonymous in with Hitler.  Brilliant.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out one of Trimpeys disciples at ARID &#8211; <a href="http://thearidsite.tripod.com/12THFILE.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://thearidsite.tripod.com/12THFILE.HTM</a>.   Here you can see them tie Alcoholics Anonymous in with Hitler.  Brilliant.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Discovering Alcoholic</title>
		<link>http://discoveringalcoholic.com/alcoholism/rational-recovery-is-pure-partisanship#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator>The Discovering Alcoholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://discoveringalcoholic.com/?p=732#comment-679</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href=http://www.discoveringalcoholic.com/blog/the-discovering-alcoholic/stanton-peele-me-a-grape&gt;Stanton Peeleâ€™s &lt;em&gt;Diseasing of America&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=http://www.discoveringalcoholic.com/blog/the-discovering-alcoholic/herbert-fingarette-s-heavy-drinking-is-heavy-in-semantics&gt;Herbert Fingaretteâ€™s &lt;em&gt;Heavy Drinking&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=http://www.discoveringalcoholic.com/blog/the-discovering-alcoholic/safe-social-drinking-for-safe-social-drinkers&gt;D. J. Cornettâ€™s &lt;em&gt;7 Weeks to Safe Social Drinking&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href=http://www.discoveringalcoholic.com/blog/the-discovering-alcoholic/stanton-peele-me-a-grape>Stanton Peeleâ€™s <em>Diseasing of America</em></a></p>
<p><a href=http://www.discoveringalcoholic.com/blog/the-discovering-alcoholic/herbert-fingarette-s-heavy-drinking-is-heavy-in-semantics>Herbert Fingaretteâ€™s <em>Heavy Drinking</em></a></p>
<p><a href=http://www.discoveringalcoholic.com/blog/the-discovering-alcoholic/safe-social-drinking-for-safe-social-drinkers>D. J. Cornettâ€™s <em>7 Weeks to Safe Social Drinking</em></a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

